Dr. Zakir Naik and the controversy




By Md. Ali, TwoCircles.net

Renowned Islamic scholar and preacher Dr. Zakir Naik angered a section of Sunnis and Shias by his statement to a private TV channel that a Muslim should seek help only from Allah and no one else, not even the Prophet.

Angered by his statement a section of the community reportedly approached the home minister of Maharashtra RR Patil and demanded a ban on the Islamic conference which he is organizing between November 14 and 24 in Mumbai.

The 43 year old medical practitioner told reporters that by saying this he has not done any thing against the principles of Islam. Whatever he has said is essential of "Tauhid" which is the soul of "Imaan". A big section of Muslims across the world believe that Only Allah is the All Mighty and worthy of worship and help should be sought only from him and no one else he added.




Photo by Musa abu A'isha

Dr. Naik enjoys a fan following across the world because of his critical analysis of Islam and his knowledge on comparative religion. He is the founder-president of Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) and also runs Peace TV, an Islamic television.

He travels across the world giving speeches and lectures on Islam and comparative religion. A big section of Muslim across the world appreciates his efforts to clear misconceptions about Islam through his lectures and talks.

There was another Fatwa against him by some Shia clergy of UP. Last Friday Lucknow based Mufti Abul Irfan Mian Firangi Mahali issued a fatwa against Dr. Naik describing him as a kafir (agnostic). The fatwa recommends that Dr. Naik be ex-communicated from Islam.

The Mufti pointed out that Dr. Naik supports Osama Bin Laden and calls upon the Muslim youths to become terrorists. He also criticized Dr. Naik for his alleged glorification of Yazeed who killed Imam Hussein the maternal grand son of the Prophet and a person considered holy and respectable by the Shias across the world.

Dr. Naik on the other hand defended himself and clarified that he has never supported either terrorism or Osama. He added that he has always been saying that all those who kill innocents are terrorists. He pointed out that people usually misquote his statements from the speeches he delivered in past.

For instance, he pointed out that the actual statement goes like this that "all those who kill innocents are terrorists. So if the USA kills innocents, it doesn't have the right to call Osama a terrorist unless it owns up its own crime."

On the accusation of instigating Muslims to become terrorists he clarified that he had said Muslims should become terrorists in the sense that they should strike terror in the hearts of criminals and anti-socials but again the statement has been misquoted he added.


Zakir Naik on Taliban and Osama Bin Laden

Last year he was center of an international controversy by saying radi Allaho anho (may Allah be pleased with him) after taking Yazid's name, a traditional prayer reserved for the companions of the Prophet Mohammad.

Last month Dr. Naik was supposed to deliver a series of public lectures in Allahabad and Lucknow. But Shia groups started protesting against Dr. Naik. Soon the administration had to stop the lectures citing law and order problem.

It is not the case that Dr. Naik hasn't got any support on this issue. Many Muslim organizations have come in his support. All-India Sunni Board and Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani Foundation came to defend him saying that Dr. Naik is one of the most respected scholars and doing an excellent work through his efforts to clear the misconceptions about Islam.

Dr. Naik who was born in Mumbai on October 18, 1965 is a medical doctor by profession. The website of Islamic Research Foundation describes him as "international orator on Islam and Comparative Religion. Dr. Zakir Naik clarifies Islamic viewpoints and clears misconceptions about Islam, using the Qur'an, authentic Hadith and other religious Scriptures as a basis, in conjunction with reason, logic and scientific facts."

He has also been appreciated by his efforts to engage in inter religious dialogue.

He has given hundreds of public lectures on Islam and comparative religion. He has also authored many books including Replies To The Most Common Questions asked By Non-Muslims, Qur'an and Modern Sciences- Compatible Or incompatible, Concepts of God in Major Religions, Islam and Terrorism, Women's Right in Islam- Protected Or subjugated, among others.

Link:

http://www.irf.net/irf/main.htm

Comments

Reading the holy book without

Reading the holy book without understanding ( samjh boojh ) is like a donkey doing the same thing again & again without knowing why-when-what he is doing. Everybody in this forum has read the scriptures thoroughly. Infact some people need to read their scripture with a more secular attitude and logical approach instead of repeating the scripture 5 times a day like a ritualistic parrot. If one has the guts he should read the scripture and compare the same with historical facts & universal morality - the very foundation of the persons faith might get shaken . Instead of advising other to follow the holy book 'accordingly' you should first justify you own religion on the grounds of morality, spiritualism & historical facts. Everybody is not stupid and idiot to accept any religion/faith for granted. If your holy book says that a cow can climb a tree and you believe it wholeheartedly then it is your personal psycological problem , but do not expect the same attitude from others.

Thanks brother Quran is

Thanks brother
Quran is indeed the word of Allah(swt).

ASA

ASA all my dear brothers and sisters...
I am a reverted muslim girl,i was born in a hindu family but by the grace and will of almighty allah,i m a muslim today in faith and in practice.Dr Naik has been an amazing inspiration and he is truly gifted by Allah,the Supreme.He will be criticised by others as the messengers of Allah were,cos anyone who makes efforts to guide mankind towards Allah will be very much an enemy of may people.But to those who Allah guides,truly is Dr. Naik doing a job beyond praise.The holy Quran is a word of Allah,and if people have doubts about it,its only because they do not have clearity of hwat it exactly says and this does not mean that there is any mistake in the Quran.It is a word of Allah and no doubt about it.I do not find a single thing in it which is contradictory cos i believe in evry single word of it s it is from Allah.So rather than criticising,just think rationally and scientifically becos Islam is the only religion which believes in all other messengers of Allah and it is ever growing,so thats the biggest fact to prove what is wrong or right.Im a muslim n surely the chosen one by Allah,subhanavtallah.Please think 100 times before criticsing a man who is actually trying to guide u.My best wishes to all.May allah bless u all n guide u on the straight path.Allah hafiz.

w/S. hearty

w/S.
hearty congratulations.and welcome to Grand Community
of 1.8billion obedients.
May Allah(swt)give you strength to withstand the pressure
TEST which everyone of us has to undergo.Ameen

Aakla Chalo Rey..

Jodi tor daak shuney koi na aasha
Aakla chalo, aakla chalo, aakla chalo rey..

Dr. Naik : Very nice speech., very long posts. Commendable. Now lets get to some hard talk. How will it be., if Mr. Zakir Naik., arranges for Rs. 30 crores., and sets up a Quality KG-12 High School (10 crore land + 20 crore bldg., plus recurring expense Rs. 4-5 crores., mainly teacher salaries)., and run it on a no-loss no-profit basis. The fees would come to Rs. 24,000 per year or Rs. 2,000 p.m. Muslim kids will gladly give it.

Top Hindu schools do not admit the "Maleecha" muslims. It is a fact of life. Muslims do not have the balls to go and appeal against such schools in court. The bureaucracy (Revenue Dept., Police., State Govt., Central Govt., Judiciary, Army)., infact the SYSTEM is pitted against them. So they keep quiet. Nor do they have the Political Power to show their strength., and force these APARTHIED SCHOOLS (as someone rightly put it)., to see reason.

So., in a spirit of Self-Help, how about starting a quality High School Dr. Naik, where you groom Musilm-kids to be Drs., Engrs., IIT-ians., CAs., media persons, lawyers !

Who will educate Muslim kids ? Do you expect the Govt. (Kapil Sibal talks about Public Pvt Partnerships... in effect it means.. sorry i cant do anything.. but IF you do on your own... you have to get 14 permissions.. and at every step you have to bribe the bureaucracy)., or the RSS to do anything for muslims ?

No Govt (Central or State) will set up 1 (one) Quality High school for muslims. See the reality., and act in the spirit of self-help.

P.S. Some illiterate people here consider Premji (Wipro) as Muslim. He is not. These illiterates need to be educated at National Public School, Indiranagar, Bangalore (run by N. Gopalakrishna and his wife Shantamma, who launders the dirty money of Bellary illegal-miner., Janardhana Reddy).

where are u living

sir,
i guess making such allegation against the government and RSS are baseless.... the schools so provided to each and every child there is no discrimintion in right to education in private or public sector education.... i think u need to get ur stats right before giving such nd outrageous and maligned statement that evokes hatred.... i am an entrepreneur ...beleiver of none of the religions.... we survey for school and college education ...and trust even in hindu or muslim educational trusts in any part of the country there is no ban in the admission of disbelievers of any religion or caste... if u dont believe just take a register and cover a few dominated institute and then post back..... no intentions to be rude....if i was sincere apologies

Pls do research on the below:

white flame: Pls do research on the schools below. See the Admission-Profile (20-25 yrs., and you will not find a single muslim name). SO much for "inclusive" india. Ghettoisation starts at the class-room.. at KG.

1. Padma Seshadri Bala Bhavan (3 campuses) Chennai
2. DAV Sr Secondary School Gopalapuram Chennai
3. Vidya Mandir, Royapetta, Chennai
4. Bala Vidya Mandir, Adyar, Chennai
5. SBOA, Chennai
6. National Public School, Gopalapuram, Chennai

and so on and so on. YOu have a list of top schools (Outlook 2002). Take that issue out. There is a state-wise list of top 10 schools. Research into the data. Admission profile for the past 20-25 yrs. and highlight number of muslim students admitted. See if you can find a muslim on the faculty (maybe u find 1 out of 600 teachers, as the case is with Padma Seshadri Bala Bhavan., where not 1 single muslim has been admited for the past 25 yrs! ). These institutions are run by RSS-chaddi wallahs in their 80s.

schools

May be you don't like to admit your childrens in these schools. because you hate vandematharam and saraswathi(Vidya)vandan.That is why there is no muslims in these schools.

Charity ???????

Somebody has mentioned about zakat (2.5% as alms) in islam, and he seems to take great pride in that. I would request all non-muslims to read this passage very carefully and understand the hypocrisy and the spiritual vagueness connected with this practice of Zakat. Can a muslim name any religion which is against charity? Every religion preaches charity but their presentation differs. The concept of Zakat is something different. It makes obligatory on the part of a muslim to pay a certain percentage of their earning for charity. Now, the tax we pay to the government is also supposed to be ideally spent for state welfare and for upliftment of the under privileged class (kind of charity). But when we pay the tax we don’t have the feeling of doing charity because it is given under certain compulsion and obligation and not from a deep feeling of love and compassion. Any charity which is not spurred from the deep feeling of love & compassion is no charity at all – it doesn’t clean your soul & heart. A charity done under compulsion is rather a kind of tax which does not give any spiritual & moral benefit to us. Charity should be at free will with no binding of percentage. How will you know a person real feeling of love and compassion if it is done under compulsion? In fact, when the feeling of compassion & love burst out from your heart your charity will cross all boundaries of percentages – this is a real test of a person faith and morality. Such charity by compulsion has no spiritual & moral weightage , it had only given political advantage to islam. It has been seen that in some European countries the poor class have got converted to Islam for availing the money from Zakat distribution – and not because of some ‘beauty of koran’. Such conversion are based on monetary benefits rather than spiritual and moral enlightenment.

Now the real hypocrisy- On one side we have the ‘Zakat’ and on the other side we have another tax called ‘Jizya’. The ‘Jizya’ is a tax imposed on the non-muslims (sura 9:29) irrespective of the economic condition of the person. It was imposed with the intention of humiliating the non-muslim and torturing them financially so they would accept Islam. This is also a kind of Jihad which is more heinous that the Jihad fought with sword , guns & bombs. This was practiced by most of the Muslim rulers throughout central Asia and even by some rulers in India. In 643, Tripoli was conquered by the muslim and the native Christian Berbers were forced to give their wives and children to the Muslims as slaves to satisfy the Jizya. The Serbs of Europe were particularly hard hit and often had to hand over their children to satisfy the ‘Jizya’ collectors. In India, well into the 17th century, Muslim tax collectors would also take the wives and children of impoverished Hindus and sell them into slavery for the Jizya requirement. The only way for many to avoid losing their families was to convert to Islam.

What a pathetic situation. Here we have a religion (islam) and its God (Allah) who is all compassionate for the muslim-poor but is ruthless and merciless towards the non-muslim-poor. Is this the ‘beauty of Koran’ that is cherished by the muslims ? for me it is Shameful & Disgusting

Brother, open your eyes and be charitable!

Dear Anon,
I fear your reading of history and the Quran is biased and based on coloured spectacles. 9:29 does talk about fighting but it is revealed in a certain context - please read the entire Quran before making such a sweeping judgement.

Intention behind charity can always vary - whether it is given voluntarily for love of God (and aiding the poor), whether it is given under duress (i.e.- tax), whether it is given for pomp and show. Zakat is only the minimum amount expected from every "believer" (I hope an intelligent person like you would be able to understand the demands of true belief)! Moreover, the Quran exhorts believers to give Sadqah (charity) and it is absolutely clear that deeds are rewarded as per intentions.

Regarding Jizyah, brother if the defining social and political conditions of that era are not present, it can hardly be used today or even in the future. There was persecution and denial of the clear signs of Prophethood, and when God paved a way for the followers of the Prophet, these verses were revealed. You may be right, they could have been misused by later Muslim kings - however, such kind of misuse of scripture has happened in all religions.

In fact, Islam is not an alien religion to you - God does not differentiate between His children - anyone who submits his will before the Almighty is a Muslim (one surrendered unto Allah).

@ Charity Anonymous Brother

@ Charity Anonymous
Brother if you want to do charity no religion stops you.You will
surely be rewarded for charity.
Tax is not a charity.In all secular economies govts.are run on tax money.
2.5% zakat is a compulsory charity for a Rich muslim(nisab).
Poor people cant be left to mercy of rich.
jizya is service charge for protecting from outsider enemy attacks.(tax)

Kya knowledge bikhertey jee..

Kya knowledge bikhertey jee.. ya neem hakeem khatrey jaan.. Sab kuch karenga, except unity, togetherness, progress and prosperity etc. Mian zara dunia rekho bhaaee, Guess what is store at lower level. May Allah guide us..
faruqi - trying to become a simple Muslim

The issue of Islam degrading

The issue of Islam degrading women by keeping them behind the veil:- (Dr. Zakir Nayek)

Dr. Nayek. Refers to the position of women in Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Pre Islamic Arabian Civilisation to justify the Hijaab for women in Islam (The Veil). If one goes through the details history of the above civilization one can only conclude that Dr. nayek is a cheat. The secondary position of women was prevalent thorough out the planet during that period. In fact, through the passage of time the whole world has changed its attitude towards women, giving them freedom, rights, privileges & opportunities. This has helped women to position themselves at par with men. But, only islam remains a religion which veils women by some medieval doctrine. I do not understand the logic – Since some civilization 1000s of years ago has mistreated the females so their counterparts of the 21st century have to veil themselves from head to toes.

Some specific notes regarding the status of women in the above mentioned civilization which contradicts Dr. nayek’s Statements
>Spartan of Greece had an entirely different view of gender. Women were on par with men. They were educated, could own land, have multiple husbands and participate in public life just as a man could.

> Egyptian women's rights extended to all legally defined areas of Egyptian civilization. Women could manage, own, and sell private property, which included slaves, land, portable goods, servants, livestock, and money. Women could resolve legal settlements. Women could conclude any kind of legal settlement. Women could appear as a contracting partner in a marriage contract or a divorce contract; they could execute testaments; they could free slaves; women could make adoptions. Women were entitled to sue at law. This amount of freedom was at variance with that of the Greek women who required a designated male, called a kourios, to represent or stand for her in all legal contracts and proceedings. This male was her husband, father or brother.
An Egyptian woman could acquire possessions in many ways. She could receive it as gifts or as an inheritance from her parents or husband. Or she could receive it from purchases with goods which she earned either through employment, or which she borrowed. A woman had claims to up to one-third of all the community property in her marriage

Another justification given by the Dr. is that, since there is a risk of a women getting raped or molested or teased the female species of this planet has to wrap themselves up in a veil. Instead of tuning up Men’s morality to resist & overcome his lust and luxuria, the burden of the men’s moral conduct is laid on the women shoulders. A true religion will take control of such thing by the strength and power of its moral and spiritual teachings which in turn ignites a person’s inner power to overcome lust, greed, jealousy etc within him. A religion is not supposed to act like a police to restore morality. It does when it’s spiritual & moral foundations are week. You do not need to wrap a person in veil at the cost of that person’s freedom to show that a religion is the best in regards to Sexual morality – this is hypocrisy. A religion which is a product of human mind lacks such spiritual and moral charisma to bring about a moral transformation within a man. Such faiths are inspired by the devil and not GOD. How can we expect a person of such a faith to have control over his lust when his scriptures tell him to gaze down in front of a women and same scripture allows him to have 4 wives, same scripture allows him to have sex with a slave or a non-believing women without consent, the same scriptures allows his prophet to have any women he liked as his wife even without her consent.

Dr. Nayek thinks that women-liberalization has transformed every women in west to a prostitute or a strip dancer and they generally don’t wear any clothes.
IT is evident that Dr. Nayek’s idea about women liberalization in the west is limited to nudity and sex. These bias ideas are basically influence by his Islamic background. Women liberalization is far beyond sex and nudity. It includes women entry in all profession, equal rights in terms of domestic matters & property. Equal right and say in marital issues, Equal status in intellectual arenas, participation in sports and games, Participation in the defense of the country, Participation in the administration and politics of the country, freedom from age old social & religious practices which have tortured them for ages, right for sexual choice etc. Now, do you expect the west or any other civilized community to give up all these since some women have gone naked?
Also to remind Dr. Nayek that most of the rich persons from the middle-east go to the west or south asian countries to enjoy sex with those prostitute and strip dancer. The devil and his sin still lurk under the veil. So, if you remove the veil the real sin which lay inside the hearts & minds of the people will get exposed.
Also, a woman has to cover herself since her looks could arouse lustful thoughts in a man mind. Now as a doctor Dr. Nayek should know that a woman might also get lustful thoughts in her mind if she sees an attractive man. What precaution do you have in Islam for that?

A sin originates from our hearts & mind. It gets manifested in our actions. You can suppress it by some veil but is still resides in our hearts & mind. Whether it gets manifested or not it is still a sin. You want to stop it then do it at the heart by you moral & spiritual strength of your scriptures. Else, it is hypocrisy.

Some of the extracts from the Islamic scripture are given below which does not indicate any respect towards women. They are generally avoided by the Islamic Scholars.
Men have a degree over women...2:228 (supremacy of men)
Men are Revelations are sent to men only…12:109
protectors and maintainers of women; women must be devoutly obedient, if not then beat them...4:34
Majority of women are in hell...( Shahih Bukhari 1.6.301)
There are many perfect men but there are no perfect women except Mary, Asiya (Pharaoh’s wife) and Aisha (Muhammad’s wife)… (Shahih Muslim 31.5966)
Women, slaves and camels are same; must seek Allah's refuge from all these...(Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2155)
A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, dog and a monkey...( Shahih Bukhari 1.9.490)
Menstruation is a disease...2:222
Menstruation is a defect in women for they cannot fast and pray during their periods... (Shahih Bukhari 3.31.172)
People ruled by a woman will never be successful...(Shahih Bukhari 5.59.709)
A woman is like a rib---that is why she has the crookedness...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.113)
Women, house and horses are evil omens..( Shahih Bukhari;7.62.30)
Nothing is more harmful to men than women...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.33)
The house, the wife and the horse are bad luck…(Shahih Muslim 26.5523)
Women are more harmful to men than anything else…(Shahih Muslim 36.6603)
Because of Eve women are unfaithful towards their husbands…(Shahih Muslim 8.3471)
Women should beg a man not to divorce her (Shahih Bukhari 7.62.134)
Four free women wives (some say nine) at a time and any number of slave girls are permitted...4:3
The best Muslims had the largest number of wives...( Shahih Bukhari 7.62.7)
A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife...( Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142 )
Allah gets displeased with the woman who does not respond when her husband demands sex from her…(Shahih Muslim 8.3367)
e13.5 (Ibid, p94) If a woman claims to be having her period but her husband does not believe her, it is lawful for him to have sexual intercourse with her.
If a man said to his wife ‘you are haram for me ‘ then it is counted as three pronouncements of divorce…(Malik’s Muwatta 29.1.6)
Here is merciful and tolerant Qur’an
Do not get your girls married to unbelievers until they believe...2:221
AND MORE…….

The issue of Islam degrading

The issue of Islam degrading women by keeping them behind the veil:- (Dr. Zakir Nayek)

Dr. Nayek. Refers to the position of women in Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Pre Islamic Arabian Civilisation to justify the Hijaab for women in Islam (The Veil). If one goes through the details history of the above civilization one can only conclude that Dr. nayek is a cheat. The secondary position of women was prevalent thorough out the planet during that period. In fact, through the passage of time the whole world has changed its attitude towards women, giving them freedom, rights, privileges & opportunities. This has helped women to position themselves at par with men. But, only islam remains a religion which veils women by some medieval doctrine. I do not understand the logic – Since some civilization 1000s of years ago has mistreated the females so their counterparts of the 21st century have to veil themselves from head to toes.

Some specific notes regarding the status of women in the above mentioned civilization which contradicts Dr. nayek’s Statements
>Spartan of Greece had an entirely different view of gender. Women were on par with men. They were educated, could own land, have multiple husbands and participate in public life just as a man could.

> Egyptian women's rights extended to all legally defined areas of Egyptian civilization. Women could manage, own, and sell private property, which included slaves, land, portable goods, servants, livestock, and money. Women could resolve legal settlements. Women could conclude any kind of legal settlement. Women could appear as a contracting partner in a marriage contract or a divorce contract; they could execute testaments; they could free slaves; women could make adoptions. Women were entitled to sue at law. This amount of freedom was at variance with that of the Greek women who required a designated male, called a kourios, to represent or stand for her in all legal contracts and proceedings. This male was her husband, father or brother.
An Egyptian woman could acquire possessions in many ways. She could receive it as gifts or as an inheritance from her parents or husband. Or she could receive it from purchases with goods which she earned either through employment, or which she borrowed. A woman had claims to up to one-third of all the community property in her marriage

Another justification given by the Dr. is that, since there is a risk of a women getting raped or molested or teased the female species of this planet has to wrap themselves up in a veil. Instead of tuning up Men’s morality to resist & overcome his lust and luxuria, the burden of the men’s moral conduct is laid on the women shoulders. A true religion will take control of such thing by the strength and power of its moral and spiritual teachings which in turn ignites a person’s inner power to overcome lust, greed, jealousy etc within him. A religion is not supposed to act like a police to restore morality. It does when it’s spiritual & moral foundations are week. You do not need to wrap a person in veil at the cost of that person’s freedom to show that a religion is the best in regards to Sexual morality – this is hypocrisy. A religion which is a product of human mind lacks such spiritual and moral charisma to bring about a moral transformation within a man. Such faiths are inspired by the devil and not GOD. How can we expect a person of such a faith to have control over his lust when his scriptures tell him to gaze down in front of a women and same scripture allows him to have 4 wives, same scripture allows him to have sex with a slave or a non-believing women without consent, the same scriptures allows his prophet to have any women he liked as his wife even without her consent.

Dr. Nayek thinks that women-liberalization has transformed every women in west to a prostitute or a strip dancer and they generally don’t wear any clothes.
IT is evident that Dr. Nayek’s idea about women liberalization in the west is limited to nudity and sex. These bias ideas are basically influence by his Islamic background. Women liberalization is far beyond sex and nudity. It includes women entry in all profession, equal rights in terms of domestic matters & property. Equal right and say in marital issues, Equal status in intellectual arenas, participation in sports and games, Participation in the defense of the country, Participation in the administration and politics of the country, freedom from age old social & religious practices which have tortured them for ages, right for sexual choice etc. Now, do you expect the west or any other civilized community to give up all these since some women have gone naked?
Also to remind Dr. Nayek that most of the rich persons from the middle-east go to the west or south asian countries to enjoy sex with those prostitute and strip dancer. The devil and his sin still lurk under the veil. So, if you remove the veil the real sin which lay inside the hearts & minds of the people will get exposed.
Also, a woman has to cover herself since her looks could arouse lustful thoughts in a man mind. Now as a doctor Dr. Nayek should know that a woman might also get lustful thoughts in her mind if she sees an attractive man. What precaution do you have in Islam for that?

A sin originates from our hearts & mind. It gets manifested in our actions. You can suppress it by some veil but is still resides in our hearts & mind. Whether it gets manifested or not it is still a sin. You want to stop it then do it at the heart by you moral & spiritual strength of your scriptures. Else, it is hypocrisy.

Some of the extracts from the Islamic scripture are given below which does not indicate any respect towards women. They are generally avoided by the Islamic Scholars.
Men have a degree over women...2:228 (supremacy of men)
Men are Revelations are sent to men only…12:109
protectors and maintainers of women; women must be devoutly obedient, if not then beat them...4:34
Majority of women are in hell...( Shahih Bukhari 1.6.301)
There are many perfect men but there are no perfect women except Mary, Asiya (Pharaoh’s wife) and Aisha (Muhammad’s wife)… (Shahih Muslim 31.5966)
Women, slaves and camels are same; must seek Allah's refuge from all these...(Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2155)
A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, dog and a monkey...( Shahih Bukhari 1.9.490)
Menstruation is a disease...2:222
Menstruation is a defect in women for they cannot fast and pray during their periods... (Shahih Bukhari 3.31.172)
People ruled by a woman will never be successful...(Shahih Bukhari 5.59.709)
A woman is like a rib---that is why she has the crookedness...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.113)
Women, house and horses are evil omens..( Shahih Bukhari;7.62.30)
Nothing is more harmful to men than women...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.33)
The house, the wife and the horse are bad luck…(Shahih Muslim 26.5523)
Women are more harmful to men than anything else…(Shahih Muslim 36.6603)
Because of Eve women are unfaithful towards their husbands…(Shahih Muslim 8.3471)
Women should beg a man not to divorce her (Shahih Bukhari 7.62.134)
Four free women wives (some say nine) at a time and any number of slave girls are permitted...4:3
The best Muslims had the largest number of wives...( Shahih Bukhari 7.62.7)
A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife...( Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142 )
Allah gets displeased with the woman who does not respond when her husband demands sex from her…(Shahih Muslim 8.3367)
e13.5 (Ibid, p94) If a woman claims to be having her period but her husband does not believe her, it is lawful for him to have sexual intercourse with her.
If a man said to his wife ‘you are haram for me ‘ then it is counted as three pronouncements of divorce…(Malik’s Muwatta 29.1.6)
Here is merciful and tolerant Qur’an
Do not get your girls married to unbelievers until they believe...2:221
AND MORE…….

The issue of Islam degrading

The issue of Islam degrading women by keeping them behind the veil:- (Dr. Zakir Nayek)

Dr. Nayek. Refers to the position of women in Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Pre Islamic Arabian Civilisation to justify the Hijaab for women in Islam (The Veil). If one goes through the details history of the above civilization one can only conclude that Dr. nayek is a cheat. The secondary position of women was prevalent thorough out the planet during that period. In fact, through the passage of time the whole world has changed its attitude towards women, giving them freedom, rights, privileges & opportunities. This has helped women to position themselves at par with men. But, only islam remains a religion which veils women by some medieval doctrine. I do not understand the logic – Since some civilization 1000s of years ago has mistreated the females so their counterparts of the 21st century have to veil themselves from head to toes.

Some specific notes regarding the status of women in the above mentioned civilization which contradicts Dr. nayek’s Statements
>Spartan of Greece had an entirely different view of gender. Women were on par with men. They were educated, could own land, have multiple husbands and participate in public life just as a man could.

> Egyptian women's rights extended to all legally defined areas of Egyptian civilization. Women could manage, own, and sell private property, which included slaves, land, portable goods, servants, livestock, and money. Women could resolve legal settlements. Women could conclude any kind of legal settlement. Women could appear as a contracting partner in a marriage contract or a divorce contract; they could execute testaments; they could free slaves; women could make adoptions. Women were entitled to sue at law. This amount of freedom was at variance with that of the Greek women who required a designated male, called a kourios, to represent or stand for her in all legal contracts and proceedings. This male was her husband, father or brother.
An Egyptian woman could acquire possessions in many ways. She could receive it as gifts or as an inheritance from her parents or husband. Or she could receive it from purchases with goods which she earned either through employment, or which she borrowed. A woman had claims to up to one-third of all the community property in her marriage

Another justification given by the Dr. is that, since there is a risk of a women getting raped or molested or teased the female species of this planet has to wrap themselves up in a veil. Instead of tuning up Men’s morality to resist & overcome his lust and luxuria, the burden of the men’s moral conduct is laid on the women shoulders. A true religion will take control of such thing by the strength and power of its moral and spiritual teachings which in turn ignites a person’s inner power to overcome lust, greed, jealousy etc within him. A religion is not supposed to act like a police to restore morality. It does when it’s spiritual & moral foundations are week. You do not need to wrap a person in veil at the cost of that person’s freedom to show that a religion is the best in regards to Sexual morality – this is hypocrisy. A religion which is a product of human mind lacks such spiritual and moral charisma to bring about a moral transformation within a man. Such faiths are inspired by the devil and not GOD. How can we expect a person of such a faith to have control over his lust when his scriptures tell him to gaze down in front of a women and same scripture allows him to have 4 wives, same scripture allows him to have sex with a slave or a non-believing women without consent, the same scriptures allows his prophet to have any women he liked as his wife even without her consent.

Dr. Nayek thinks that women-liberalization has transformed every women in west to a prostitute or a strip dancer and they generally don’t wear any clothes.
IT is evident that Dr. Nayek’s idea about women liberalization in the west is limited to nudity and sex. These bias ideas are basically influence by his Islamic background. Women liberalization is far beyond sex and nudity. It includes women entry in all profession, equal rights in terms of domestic matters & property. Equal right and say in marital issues, Equal status in intellectual arenas, participation in sports and games, Participation in the defense of the country, Participation in the administration and politics of the country, freedom from age old social & religious practices which have tortured them for ages, right for sexual choice etc. Now, do you expect the west or any other civilized community to give up all these since some women have gone naked?
Also to remind Dr. Nayek that most of the rich persons from the middle-east go to the west or south asian countries to enjoy sex with those prostitute and strip dancer. The devil and his sin still lurk under the veil. So, if you remove the veil the real sin which lay inside the hearts & minds of the people will get exposed.
Also, a woman has to cover herself since her looks could arouse lustful thoughts in a man mind. Now as a doctor Dr. Nayek should know that a woman might also get lustful thoughts in her mind if she sees an attractive man. What precaution do you have in Islam for that?

A sin originates from our hearts & mind. It gets manifested in our actions. You can suppress it by some veil but is still resides in our hearts & mind. Whether it gets manifested or not it is still a sin. You want to stop it then do it at the heart by you moral & spiritual strength of your scriptures. Else, it is hypocrisy.

Some of the extracts from the Islamic scripture are given below which does not indicate any respect towards women. They are generally avoided by the Islamic Scholars.
Men have a degree over women...2:228 (supremacy of men)
Men are Revelations are sent to men only…12:109
protectors and maintainers of women; women must be devoutly obedient, if not then beat them...4:34
Majority of women are in hell...( Shahih Bukhari 1.6.301)
There are many perfect men but there are no perfect women except Mary, Asiya (Pharaoh’s wife) and Aisha (Muhammad’s wife)… (Shahih Muslim 31.5966)
Women, slaves and camels are same; must seek Allah's refuge from all these...(Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2155)
A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, dog and a monkey...( Shahih Bukhari 1.9.490)
Menstruation is a disease...2:222
Menstruation is a defect in women for they cannot fast and pray during their periods... (Shahih Bukhari 3.31.172)
People ruled by a woman will never be successful...(Shahih Bukhari 5.59.709)
A woman is like a rib---that is why she has the crookedness...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.113)
Women, house and horses are evil omens..( Shahih Bukhari;7.62.30)
Nothing is more harmful to men than women...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.33)
The house, the wife and the horse are bad luck…(Shahih Muslim 26.5523)
Women are more harmful to men than anything else…(Shahih Muslim 36.6603)
Because of Eve women are unfaithful towards their husbands…(Shahih Muslim 8.3471)
Women should beg a man not to divorce her (Shahih Bukhari 7.62.134)
Four free women wives (some say nine) at a time and any number of slave girls are permitted...4:3
The best Muslims had the largest number of wives...( Shahih Bukhari 7.62.7)
A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife...( Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142 )
Allah gets displeased with the woman who does not respond when her husband demands sex from her…(Shahih Muslim 8.3367)
e13.5 (Ibid, p94) If a woman claims to be having her period but her husband does not believe her, it is lawful for him to have sexual intercourse with her.
If a man said to his wife ‘you are haram for me ‘ then it is counted as three pronouncements of divorce…(Malik’s Muwatta 29.1.6)
Here is merciful and tolerant Qur’an
Do not get your girls married to unbelievers until they believe...2:221
AND MORE…….

The issue of Islam degrading

The issue of Islam degrading women by keeping them behind the veil:- (Dr. Zakir Nayek)

Dr. Nayek. Refers to the position of women in Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Pre Islamic Arabian Civilisation to justify the Hijaab for women in Islam (The Veil). If one goes through the details history of the above civilization one can only conclude that Dr. nayek is a cheat. The secondary position of women was prevalent thorough out the planet during that period. In fact, through the passage of time the whole world has changed its attitude towards women, giving them freedom, rights, privileges & opportunities. This has helped women to position themselves at par with men. But, only islam remains a religion which veils women by some medieval doctrine. I do not understand the logic – Since some civilization 1000s of years ago has mistreated the females so their counterparts of the 21st century have to veil themselves from head to toes.

Some specific notes regarding the status of women in the above mentioned civilization which contradicts Dr. nayek’s Statements
>Spartan of Greece had an entirely different view of gender. Women were on par with men. They were educated, could own land, have multiple husbands and participate in public life just as a man could.

> Egyptian women's rights extended to all legally defined areas of Egyptian civilization. Women could manage, own, and sell private property, which included slaves, land, portable goods, servants, livestock, and money. Women could resolve legal settlements. Women could conclude any kind of legal settlement. Women could appear as a contracting partner in a marriage contract or a divorce contract; they could execute testaments; they could free slaves; women could make adoptions. Women were entitled to sue at law. This amount of freedom was at variance with that of the Greek women who required a designated male, called a kourios, to represent or stand for her in all legal contracts and proceedings. This male was her husband, father or brother.
An Egyptian woman could acquire possessions in many ways. She could receive it as gifts or as an inheritance from her parents or husband. Or she could receive it from purchases with goods which she earned either through employment, or which she borrowed. A woman had claims to up to one-third of all the community property in her marriage

Another justification given by the Dr. is that, since there is a risk of a women getting raped or molested or teased the female species of this planet has to wrap themselves up in a veil. Instead of tuning up Men’s morality to resist & overcome his lust and luxuria, the burden of the men’s moral conduct is laid on the women shoulders. A true religion will take control of such thing by the strength and power of its moral and spiritual teachings which in turn ignites a person’s inner power to overcome lust, greed, jealousy etc within him. A religion is not supposed to act like a police to restore morality. It does when it’s spiritual & moral foundations are week. You do not need to wrap a person in veil at the cost of that person’s freedom to show that a religion is the best in regards to Sexual morality – this is hypocrisy. A religion which is a product of human mind lacks such spiritual and moral charisma to bring about a moral transformation within a man. Such faiths are inspired by the devil and not GOD. How can we expect a person of such a faith to have control over his lust when his scriptures tell him to gaze down in front of a women and same scripture allows him to have 4 wives, same scripture allows him to have sex with a slave or a non-believing women without consent, the same scriptures allows his prophet to have any women he liked as his wife even without her consent.

Dr. Nayek thinks that women-liberalization has transformed every women in west to a prostitute or a strip dancer and they generally don’t wear any clothes.
IT is evident that Dr. Nayek’s idea about women liberalization in the west is limited to nudity and sex. These bias ideas are basically influence by his Islamic background. Women liberalization is far beyond sex and nudity. It includes women entry in all profession, equal rights in terms of domestic matters & property. Equal right and say in marital issues, Equal status in intellectual arenas, participation in sports and games, Participation in the defense of the country, Participation in the administration and politics of the country, freedom from age old social & religious practices which have tortured them for ages, right for sexual choice etc. Now, do you expect the west or any other civilized community to give up all these since some women have gone naked?
Also to remind Dr. Nayek that most of the rich persons from the middle-east go to the west or south asian countries to enjoy sex with those prostitute and strip dancer. The devil and his sin still lurk under the veil. So, if you remove the veil the real sin which lay inside the hearts & minds of the people will get exposed.
Also, a woman has to cover herself since her looks could arouse lustful thoughts in a man mind. Now as a doctor Dr. Nayek should know that a woman might also get lustful thoughts in her mind if she sees an attractive man. What precaution do you have in Islam for that?

A sin originates from our hearts & mind. It gets manifested in our actions. You can suppress it by some veil but is still resides in our hearts & mind. Whether it gets manifested or not it is still a sin. You want to stop it then do it at the heart by you moral & spiritual strength of your scriptures. Else, it is hypocrisy.

Some of the extracts from the Islamic scripture are given below which does not indicate any respect towards women. They are generally avoided by the Islamic Scholars.
Men have a degree over women...2:228 (supremacy of men)
Men are Revelations are sent to men only…12:109
protectors and maintainers of women; women must be devoutly obedient, if not then beat them...4:34
Majority of women are in hell...( Shahih Bukhari 1.6.301)
There are many perfect men but there are no perfect women except Mary, Asiya (Pharaoh’s wife) and Aisha (Muhammad’s wife)… (Shahih Muslim 31.5966)
Women, slaves and camels are same; must seek Allah's refuge from all these...(Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2155)
A prayer is annulled by a passing woman, dog and a monkey...( Shahih Bukhari 1.9.490)
Menstruation is a disease...2:222
Menstruation is a defect in women for they cannot fast and pray during their periods... (Shahih Bukhari 3.31.172)
People ruled by a woman will never be successful...(Shahih Bukhari 5.59.709)
A woman is like a rib---that is why she has the crookedness...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.113)
Women, house and horses are evil omens..( Shahih Bukhari;7.62.30)
Nothing is more harmful to men than women...(Shahih Bukhari 7.62.33)
The house, the wife and the horse are bad luck…(Shahih Muslim 26.5523)
Women are more harmful to men than anything else…(Shahih Muslim 36.6603)
Because of Eve women are unfaithful towards their husbands…(Shahih Muslim 8.3471)
Women should beg a man not to divorce her (Shahih Bukhari 7.62.134)
Four free women wives (some say nine) at a time and any number of slave girls are permitted...4:3
The best Muslims had the largest number of wives...( Shahih Bukhari 7.62.7)
A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife...( Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142 )
Allah gets displeased with the woman who does not respond when her husband demands sex from her…(Shahih Muslim 8.3367)
e13.5 (Ibid, p94) If a woman claims to be having her period but her husband does not believe her, it is lawful for him to have sexual intercourse with her.
If a man said to his wife ‘you are haram for me ‘ then it is counted as three pronouncements of divorce…(Malik’s Muwatta 29.1.6)
Here is merciful and tolerant Qur’an
Do not get your girls married to unbelievers until they believe...2:221
AND MORE…….

Todays western/indian women

Todays western/indian women face all kinds of atrocities,just have
a close look on newspapers you will find enough evidence,
Hijab plus Niqab is the need of the hour as internet pornography
has driven eveyone including family male members to attack unsuspecting
careless revealing casual temmpting dressed females.

Do you have the statistic of

Do you have the statistic of number of women facing atrocities (under various heads of 'atrocities')? Let us compare the figures with number of women enjoying freedom & liberty and see which one is more and then make a statement. pornography has recetly developed in the last century. But, why have you covered by women for last 1400 years when there was no pornography. Was is pornography or your prophet sadist attitude towards women?

Only an ignorant can claim

Only an ignorant can claim that Burkha clad women lead
a sadist life.
read the comments in which another ignorant is claiming that throughout the history women have been subjected to sexual violence and there is no violence against women in 21st century.therefore no need of Hijab.
whereas you are happy that only some women are victims so no need of Hijab,your intellectual bankruptcy will vanish once
victim happens to be your dear family member.
islam religion is applicable comprehensively till eternity.Its not time or place bound.Certainly saudi arabia is the world leader in checking violence against women.

Have you read the passage

Have you read the passage properly? If you want to give argument be specific & logical and should precisely contradict the passage.In a way it seems you have agreed to the passage. Please do not beat about the bush...

Revelation from an Angel ?????

What did God create? God create everything or anything you name it – Universe, Souls, Spirits, Energy, Knowledge, Matter, Heaven, Earth, Angels, Space, time ….. If God created everything, then who create the devil/Satan? Obviously he would not have been created by some other GOD or came into existence on his own, nor was any man promoted to the status of a Devil, nor any other God transformed into Devil ( this would go against the very definition of God) . Than how did he come into existence?
To understand this we have to read the Christian Bible thoroughly. Before we get to know the devil, let us first understand what Angels are. As per the Christian Scripture the Angels are divine heavenly entities meant to serve God and be His messenger, they are powerful but not almighty and flawless like GOD. They are the intermediate between Man and God in terms of power and divinity.
Similarly, the Devil is a kind of intermediate between GOD and Man in terms of power. The only difference between an Angel and Devil is in their Divinity.
Next, Angels cannot be at par with God in terms of divinity and power otherwise they would have been considered and worshipped as GOD, and the heaven would have been populated with multitude of Gods. God is the Will and humans and Angels exist for and by His Will. This further proves that Angels can make mistake or go against the will of GOD – since they are not Gods. From the above two aspects it gets clear that there is some connection between ‘Angel’ and ‘Devil’. The Bible ( Peter 2:1-4) helps us to solve this mystery, it reveals that the Satan / Devil is a fallen Angel, being thrown out from the Kingdom of GOD. This is how the Devil came into existence (a fallen Angel ).

Every Prophet or Avatar had direct revelation from God. Jesus himself was the Son of God and the Gospel resided within him. Krishna was himself an Avatar of GOD and Godly Knowledge resided within Him. Moses received the 10 commandments directly from God etc. There were no Angels involved in these or such cases. Angel only came as messenger, helpers, for encouragement, for protection and as watchers. Interestingly, Muhammad who considers himself to be the best prophet of this world got the divine revelation (Quran) from an Angel (Gabriel ) and not God directly. There was an intermediator between him and God. Just think about Jesus meeting an angel every weekend to get fresh study materials on God’s commandment and accordingly transmitting the same to his followers. Think about Krishna meeting an Angel every fortnight to get fresh lessons on Gita. Would you have same Devotion and respect for both this two Persons as you have now? Starting from 610 AD onwards, for a span of 22 years Muhammad starting receiving Gods messages through Gabriel. Not once did the Angel introduce him to the God (Allah) during this long period, Why?? 22 years is a very long period for transmission of Godly revelation and the absence of the very source (God) in these divine meetings would create doubt in any person’s mind. The following two extracts from the Islamic scripture indicates kind of doubt and dilemma boiling in the prophet’s subconscious mind (Sura 46:9 - I don't know what will happen with me or you so how can I tell you if you will go to heaven or not.
Hadith vol. 5, no. 266 -The Prophet said, "By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not
know what Allah will do to me.) How could a prophet who being the only sources of Allah’s Commandments have doubt about his outcome? The incorruptible ‘Quran’ is supposed to leave no doubt in a person’s mind regarding his moral and spiritual status – at least for the prophet. There are other burning questions which cast doubt on the spiritual source of the Quran – whether it was heavenly or something else.

Why couldn’t Muhammad perform a single miracle? All prophets or saints have done some miracle. When asked about miracles Muhammad answered that Quran itself was a Miracle. Quran or any other religious books are supposed to be the commandments and revelation of God. They are not miracle which happens for a certain period and purpose but instead they are eternal and divine truth. Miracles originate from the power and influence of such holy books.

Why did the Prophet take matter into his own hands to punish the sinners and infidels when Allah was there to Judge them on the Judgement Day? Why Islamic Scripture instructs the believers to punish the sinners and infidels? Was Allah not capable to Judge and punish them? Was the angel spreading the Glory and Love of Allah (God) or was he spreading Sin in the name of God?

Why did the Angel through the Quran allow the Prophet to have any number of wives and Female slaves as he wished? Was he not suppose to relinquish all worldly pleasure for the sake of a greater cause i.e. Allah?

Why is the Quran more flooded with Hell Fire threats rather than God love? Would God (like parents) want his children to fear him or love him?

Would God want his one child to kill another child (in the name of Jihad) since he is not a believer or was it the devil who wanted the human beings to shed the blood of his fellow ones? Would God , the Almighty, the Creator give such a bloody commandment ?

Why are the Islamic Scripture so much focused on criticizing a Single person’ Jesus Christ ‘leaving aside all other prophets, religion and idols? Such battering of a single prophet at an individual level is not seen in other religion. Would God waste his precious words on a single person instead on his Glory and Commandments? Why was Jesus such a problem for Islam or the ‘Angel’? Was it God’s Criticism or the hatred of the Angel for Jesus Christ?

I wish to add more on this Issue in future ……

How consideration ! one

How consideration ! one should be moral and spiritual internaly, so need not to have a veil on her body,very good thinking, by the way , i am asking you, if you are a hindu or christian, how many % you will be moral, when you will see any undrdssed or half dressed girl? Islam says not only to dress girls, but also it is strict for boys to keep their vision lower, when unmindfully they see any girl. Does it hinduism say? Rather Krishnaji has taught us to rape and to eavetease, as krishna has done it on Radha and others. Can you believe ! A religion ask us and teach us to rape. Think a god or avatar of god do such things! We muslims might be wrong but Islam is not wrong. The evilish motivation of satan in every person works ,even he is a spiritual , or fakely demand himself of being spiritual, or a muslim. Also a hindu spiritual leader get shocked as well as a religious muslim, when they see a half-nude girl. Do you know how many years of punishment is recorded in Islam if a muslim just stare for one mimute to a girl. So it is not burden, it is also duty & responsibility of our sisters to save eman of their muslim brothers for being a part of a same society.

blinded heart

anonymous, your major problem is that you can only see with your eyes but your heart is blind to the extent that all you are posting is illogical. I can reply to all your compusions but you need too open your heart and be ready to see and comprehend the truth so that you can the message well. it is to my surprise that a christian can ask question outside the church but remain dump inside the church. let me know when you recover so that i can start clearing your doubts pls.

It is very encouraging to see

It is very encouraging to see some people expressing their support for a universal brotherhood of all religion. Such attitude would transform this world into a heaven where everybody can live peacefully with his/her choice of religion. Sounds good, but it would never works when there is a black sheep. In our midst there is a religion (Islam) which considers every other (Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhist, Jains, Sikhs etc) as enemies. They can never consider the nonbelievers as friends and brothers since their scripture instructs them to hate and destroy the non-believers. This is unbelievable for most of the Non-Muslims that a religion or a God could ever encourage its followers to hate and kill fellow-human whom He had himself created. Unfortunately there are people who consider this as religion and Godly and follow it whole heartedly. They are blinded from this evil by some obscure science. They don’t dare to question moral and spiritual foundation of this God (Allah) and his religion (Islam). Below are some of the extracts from the Quran which would shatter the heart of a bloodiest animal.

2:191 ->And slay them (nonbelievers) wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
( War against nonbelievers is a religious duty of a muslim, even if he does not like it)

8:50 If thou couldst see how the angels receive those who disbelieve, smiting faces and their backs and (saying): Taste the punishment of burning!
( Muslims are suppose to take the example of hatred from allah and his angels )

8:65 O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.
(Instigate the nonbelievers to a fight. 20 muslim is equal to 200 non-muslim since non-muslims are stupid)

8:12 I(ALLAH) will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite (beheading) the necks and smite (cutoff) of them each finger

9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
(Fighting non-believers is religious duty)

66:9 O Prophet (Allah to Muhammad) ! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

25:52 So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.

47:4 Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting (beheading) of the necks

These are only few of the extracts. Can you still believe that you can co-exists with such a heinous group of people. Now you know why people like Dr. Zaik Nayek emphasise that Islam is a religion of ‘peace’. Most of the Non-Muslims who have got converted to Islam are unaware of these aspects that punch a hole in the very core of a religion. They are deceived by some superficial goodies and obscure science. The Logic given to them is “THOU SHALL KILL INNOCENT NON-BELIEVERS- MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDRENS, and THOU SHALL RAPE NON-BELIEVING WOMENS FOR I AM THE TRUE GOD (ALLAH) AND I AM PROVING THAT BY SOME OBSCURE AND COPIED SCIENCE”
Muslims recite the Quran daily but most of them are unaware of the meaning of what they recite since they do it in Arabic. If they knew what they are reciting there would have been havoc in the Islamic world. People who know and still believe are by nature wicked.

U need 2 know

Is not just by reading and translating the qur'an that you can use its varses. You need to know WHY, WHERE AND WHEN it was revealed before you use it as reference please.

hey you innocent

hey you innocent guy......quote what you are quoting in SEQUENCE rather than going out of context.......these are the incidents of the battlefoelds, treachery by hypocrites,.
correct your sequence dear....look from where r u taking the verses from...one from 8th chapter ,and then from 2nd, 9th ,25th,47th,66th and so on......you are decieving and misleading none but yourself ...if u r sincee about criticizing islam study quran and hadith directly.......i canprovide it to you.....you can email me....at sheikhroxshahbaz@gmail.com........may the amighty guide you to right path.....

In Pakistan in July'2007 , in

In Pakistan in July'2007 , in a organised manner some mullahs in pakistan had got a 2 year old Girl (Neha) Raped. The reason was that the family refused to convert to Islam from Christianity. The Pakistan Law had turned a deaf ear to their cry. Current the family had been shifted to Canada for fear of further atrocities.
The Muslim fundamentalist & Scholars in Pakistan have given a remarked that the act was totally Islamic and in accordance with Allah’s Commandment.
This is the religion of so call ‘PEACE ‘. A Sadist God “Allah” watches as 2 yr innocent girl gets raped for His sake.
The sad part is that the girl’s vagina is totally damaged and doctors in Canada are still trying to make an alternate way for her to urinate. The worst part is that the ‘Great Dr. Zakir Nayek’ has refused to accept the occurrence of such incidence and even stated that such a family donot exist on this planet.

Check the following site for the video ( Only for Non_muslims , The muslims will obviously deny since Allah had instructed them to do (evil) and then deny )
http://www.faithfreedom.org/videos-features/welcome-to-islam-two-year-ol...

fake

this is again an ideology to degrade islam... dis bufoon anonymous chatacter try out some new story. dis neha christian girl doesnt suits here.
and if u have dum in ur bum directly speak in front of dr. zakir naik. dont quote ur senseless misconceptions.
i think so u r a politician or a.......

Why are you angry? Don't

Why are you angry? Don't worry - whoever wants to know the truth will get to it by any means. The above post is just a news, and whether it is true or false will be judged by the individual readers

U christian's never try to

U christian's never try to challege islam and Qur'an.

Quran reveals the 'Big Bang'

Recently, Dr. Zakir Nayek has stated the Koran reveals the ‘Big Bang’. This thing happened during a debate with Dr. Campbell. He was lucky since Dr. Campbell is not much familiar with the Koran and is not a liar like him. The muslim audiences present at the debate were like regular ignorant type who knew nothing about ‘Big Bang’ nor the reality of ‘Koran’ but were full of praises for Dr. Nayek. As we analyze his claim you will be surprise that a Religious (Islamic) Scholar and plus a Man of Science (a doctor) can be such a cheat and a fraud. At first when I started to read about the debate and the Koran’s science I was expecting some surprises but at the end I was totally dissatisfied and pissed off.
To start the show let me write is short what is ‘Big Bang’ and exactly what Dr. Nayek said.

Statement By Dr. Nayek
“As far as Qur’an and modern Science is concerned, in the field of ‘Astronomy’, the Scientists, the Astronomers, a few decades earlier, they described, how the universe came into existence - They call it the ‘Big Bang’. And they said… ‘Initially there was one primary nebula, which later on it separated with a Big Bang, which gave rise to Galaxies, Stars, Sun and the Earth, we live in.’ This information is given in a nutshell in the Glorious Qur’an, in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 30, which says…. (Arabic).... Do not the unbelievers see…? …. (Arabic)…. ‘That the heavens and the earth were joined together, and we clove them asunder?’ Imagine this information which we came to know recently, the Qur’an mentions 14 hundred years ago”

The Big Bang (In short)
Before the Bang (13.7 billion years ago), there was a singularity (obviously not an Islamic nebula/nipple) with Infinite density & infinite temperature. With the sudden inflation (the bang) of this singularity, space, time, matter and energy came into existence. This expansion cooled and cosmic objects were formed (our universe). Because of the expansion the cosmic objects continues to move towards the outer edge of the universe. As these objects move out, the distance between them increases. The Big Bang gives a clear picture regarding the evolution of the universe but is not very clear regarding the stage before the Bang. The assumption is only theoretical regarding the Pre-Bang Stage.

Wrong Interpretation of the Verse

Verse 21:30 :-The heavens and the earth were joined together, and we clove them asunder’

Now let us carefully interpret the Verse 21:30. It specifically talks about 2 objects – one “The Earth” and the other “The Heaven (maybe universe or sky)”. These two objects which were joined were detached and distanced from each other. It obviously does not mean movement of cosmic elements from the centre of the universe and in the process distancing from each other. The verse only means the mutual distancing of the earth & heaven from each other. It suggests the creation of the dome/space i.e. the earth below and sky above. This idea was common believe with many religions in that region. In the bible Genesis 1:6-9 gives a similar type of explanation. It talks of separation of two layers of water to create an expanse. This expanse was called ’Sky’. The Babylonians and Mesopotamians had similar beliefs (Tale of Marduk & Tiamat). The above verse was just a copied new version of an existing Tale or Belief. Muhammad was often criticized by his foes for copying ideas from old tales and fables. This is one such example.

To bust this claim completely we also need to look into other verses of Koran relating to cosmology and creation.

21:104 The Day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll. As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it. (It is) a promise (binding) upon Us. Lo! We are to perform it

Here the koran portraits the heaven as a scroll to be rolled up. A concept relating to the dome shape of Sky (like a tent).

21:33 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.

Surprisingly the Sun revolves around the Earth like the Moon.

41:11 Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient

Here the heaven and earth are joined. But in 21:30 the heaven and earth are separated. Which one is correct ?

13:2 YUSUFALI: Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority)……..
13:10 YUSUFALI: He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see………

In both the verse the heaven is raised up like a tent / dome with invisible pillars

A very interesting part is from verse 41:9 to 41:11. It gives the sequences of creation
Verse 41:9 :- The earth created in 2 days
Verse 41:10:- Then Bless the earth with plants & Animals in 4 days
Verse 41:11:- Then Joined the Heaven (when as smoke) with earth
Verse 41:12 :- Then seven heavens created in 2 days and decorated the lowest layers of the heaven with lamps (stars & planets)
The whole sequence is reversed here. First the earth is created and then the heavens (rest of the universe)

If we carefully read the above verses we get a very confusing picture of Islamic cosmology & creation. Bluntly we can say the Muhammad thought the heaven to be as “a dome with seven layers. The lowest layer ( the visible sky) was decorated with stars & planets. The heaven was joined to the earth before being separated and held up by invisible pillars”. He also thought the earth to be the centre of the universe with sun & moon revolving around it. Such understanding of heaven & creation was common amongst ancient people. This is the best they could imagine from what they saw with their naked eyes.

Is Dr. Nayek a doctor of medicine or Cheat logy? We should not blame him since deception is the core of Islamic Spirituality & Morality.

We can conclude that there is no such SIGNS of BIG BANG in Koran rather it is a GANG BANG of man’s free & logical thinking

There is no confusion in

There is no confusion in Quran. The confusion is all yours. That's none of our problem. We are not looking for your stamp of approval. We care two long winding hoots as to what you think of Islam. No wonder no one is responding your posts.I know I shouldn't waste my time with faceless anti Muslims. Anyways, here you go:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/my_04.htm

Who cares if a stupid muslim

Who cares if a stupid muslim claims that there is no confusion in Quran without any logical argument. Your reaction are typical of any dumb muslim - doesn't matter to us. Even if Dr. Nayek says that your ancestors were Wh.... you will blindly believe him. About responding to my above post with proper logic - YOU ALL SIMPLY CAN'T.
We prefer not to show our faces to rapist, man-eaters & plunderers.

The link you have given refer to different topic and not to 'Big Bang'

Do you people have brains to analyse or is it filled up with various site links only?

Oh well, here we go again. I

Oh well, here we go again. I didn't know you were this stupid. Since I don't know what views you subscribe to, lemme throw a couple of things at ya. Choose to answer as you seem fit. Please provide proof for any of these stuffs: Jesus walking on water, Hanuman jumping to Lanka, Stephen Hawking claiming that universe was once a penny sized infinitely dense object, before which there was nothing, and after which all of the universe came about. Can any of these be proved?

We aren't fixated over Big Bang. Ali Sina has been debated to death. Stop spamming our forums and sites by regurgitating his stuff. As I said earlier, "we care two long winding hoots as to what you think", capiche?

brother if you have guts pls

brother if you have guts pls debate face to face with Dr.Zakir naik.otherwise stop backbiting.it is nothingbut evil act.what you are doing now it is very easy.but go to the table very hard.believe me you cant face him.

i have guts

I have guts to face zakir naik, tell that idiot to debate me, without killing me, rest assured I will make him veryyy angry

Wonderful - Quran has everything

Masha Allah. Great work dr.zakir Sahab. People are there who oppose it. But the whole world has starting converting to Islam and not Hinduism. Allah is the greatest.

Quran is from the creator of this universe. Science is able to prove facts mentioned in Quran but again science is not that established to prove everything mentioned in Quran.

"But the whole world has

"But the whole world has starting converting to Islam" - I wonder why the Iran’s Religious leader (Ayatollah Khomeini) had to give a public statement that if the Christians don’t convert back to Islam then they have to face ‘death’ – WHY?.

"Science is able to prove facts mentioned in Quran" The above passage on the 'Big Bang' proves that. If somebody is logically blind then nobody can help him. It is good to see that till now no muslim in this forum has been able to give proper arguments to the above passage on the 'Big Bang', but they believe there is science in quran.

Yes, your hypothetical 'Allah' is the greatest since killing in his name is unprecedented in Human history.

Allah need not elaborate '' Big Bang"

Allah need not elaborate Big Bang theory in Qur'an.Which is in Quran in just one verse is enough for the believers and the seeker of truth. Belgian astronomer and cosmologist George Lemaitre introduced the theory of Big Bang, which says the Big Ban was an explosion occoured 15billion years ago before which the universe was a lump and that is called primeral atom.This theory is motivated and acquainted with the finding of american astronomers Harlow Shapely and Edwin P Hubble on expanding universe.This invent or theory or imagination., whatever you say is very intesting and ashtonishing for humanbeing, not for Allah. Allah have many oter things to give important. It is insanity for anyone to think that a copy of whole Big Bang theory have to be present in Qur'an. Though it is intresting for humanbeing, not for Allah, the instructor of Big Bang, also Quran is not any book of science.So Allah has not elaborated it in this cause, as you expect.Just a sign of truth is enough for the seeker of truth.I'll continue it to my next reply.

The sign your are talking

The sign your are talking about indicates something else and not the expansion of universe. You have not read the passage properly. It is a total misinterpretation of the verse. Atleast the sign should have been given properly. The truth seekers should understand that the so called sign is false. Since this a God's book then we can expect every word (even signs)to be perfect, else this is a imagination of human mind. Saying that there are other matters to be handle by Allah is just a diversion from the issue.

The above passage is an analysis of the so call 'sign'. And one false sign shows the true origin of 'Allah'. We have arguments from both side and so let leave it to the truth seekers to accept which ever is logical to them. A Fanatic would take anything for a sign to prove his scripture is correct, even a 'sandwich' would do for a 'Big Bang'

Misintepetation of Quran

it is very disappointing to read your view on quaran verses, If you want to understand ISLAM , pl read Quaran not go blindly with any one's action or speech, and as far i could know, Mr. Zakir Naiyak is scholar of not only of Isalm but almost prudent in other religion, even you r not agred with his explanation, then don't blame to Islam. The Quaran teaches about humanity, now a days some people like you preoccupied wrong impression about islam..

I pray of ALLAH for your peace of mind and understanding of islam

I really appreaciate, what

I really appreaciate, what ever you mention in above paragraph, i really admire your knowledge on scinece and other ehtics, but please read and understand perfectly then only you can able to get right knowledge of Ethics like great QURAN.

Blindly by listening someone's speech or with other source of knowledge,Don't dare to critise any religion.

INSHA ALLAH MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU WITH RIGHT KNOWLEDGE.......! Ameen.

21:33 verse clarification

21:33 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.

The above Verse speaks of the sun and the moon floating in a specific orbit,As we all know that the moon orbits around the earth (no where in the verse is it mentioned that ths sun orbits around the earth) it is only recently that sciencetists have discovered that sun is not a stationary body and is continiously orbitting but NOT around the earth IT is orbitting along with all the other stars of our galaxy (the milkyway) around the center of the milky way Galaxy which is believed to be a Blackhole.

Now my brother if you do not know the simple fact about the suns motions how do you claim to understand the creation of the universe on the basis of science and then co relate it to quranic verses without understanding them and then moreover you jump to stupid conclusions.First find out the facts of science and consult an aalim (Islamic wiseman) regarding your doubts rather than posting absurd comments.

Dr. Naik

Dr. Naik said right from the start in his debate with Dr. Campbell, that the Quran is not a book of science but a book of signs. If you're looking for detailed scientific explanations to discoveries that came to light several hundred years later, it's ridiculous, because how could these be understood or explained to people of that time? It would be like trying to talk in the terminology of technology and science of some future time, not the present so it wouldn't make any sense.
Looking at the Quran in terms of signs, verses will continue to reveal future discoveries. Apart from that, there is no holy scripture that gives mankind such complete and logical guidance to live a moral life. It confirms the oneness of God,who is the Creator of mankind, therefore to submit to His will, and the way to do it, by this guidance. That is the miracle of the Quran and that's it true value.
Yazid and his father Muawiyya were nothing more than disgusting opportunists, with terrible morals. Muawiyya's mother Hind, slit open Hazrath Hamza's breast and took out his liver,chewed and spat it out. Yazid's cruel and ruthless army deprived the small band of Imam Hussain's followers, including all the men of the household of the Prophet s.a.w. because the Imam wouldn't give his hand and acknowledge this useless and immoral wastrel as someone worthy of leading his grandfather's umma. So this horrible example of humanity, deprived them of water for three days after which they were slaughtered mercilessly, and their bodies mutilated and abused, the women and children of the household of the prophet paraded before the people without their chadors while they mocked and laughed at them. They wanted to bring about an end to true Islam to suit themselves. But Allah Alimighty who is the best of planners, preserved Imam Zainul Abedeen a.s. so that this line of holy guidance could carry on. The Shia are not the Shiateen. The followers of Yazid and the like have to face reality. Because of this misguidance unfortunately, the terrorists of today,who are giving all Muslims a bad name do not happen to be Shia.It is individuals like Ayatollah Khomeini,a Shia, and by their standing up to the tyrants of today, all Muslims can hold their head high. And where do you suppose men like that recieved their guidance? Not from the likes of Yazid but from heroic figures like Hussain. If you visit Khomeini's living quarters in Iran, you will see how simply he lived, unlike the lavish lifestyles of the kings and monarchs in the middle east. It would serve anyone who wants to understand better by reading "Peshawar Nights." and get the true picture.

You are either a liar or

You are either a liar or reading a book by an author ignorant in the field of astrophysics.you haven't a clue what the big bang really is.please read more before you speak.the singularity preceded the big bang,thereafter there was the single nebulus and thereafter the condensation.thank you

Dr. Zakir

Dr. Zakir is a true muslim and proud of islam as well. He is the real islamic scholer. Any person who says any thing against him is the open enemy of islam.

Facts of YAZEED Razi-Allahu-Anhu & HUSSAIN Razi-Allahu-Anhu

The blame on YAZID® that he had killed HUSSAIN® is baselss allegation put by YAHUDI & MAJUSI turned Shia-Shiateens who had framed a conspiracy to Kill HUSSAIN® pulling him from Medina to Iraq for Great Fraud and to invoke infighting among Muslim by infusing misinformation. Hell to YAHUDI MAJUSI and their offshoot -SHIA Shiateens. Ameen, LANAHUMULLAH.
The word Shia comes from SHIATEEN, The Devils, The Zalims, The Worst Enemy of Mankind. The Natural deserving Brand “SHIA” is from very base word “Shia-teen”. It has got quite astonishing fact that Evil is core to them and also the Brand “SHIA” was invented and accepted by Shia themselves. Its permanent mark forever has been sealed by Allah (swt) for Evil-doers and no one can ever change it.
Such worthless SHIATEEN display their dubious false Love for Hussain®, weeping, chanting going against the very Traditions of Muhammed (ss), to fool comman men and to misled Ummah in particular, on the Killing issue of their own doing. The Dubious Muslims, the offshoots of Majusis and Yahudis, have got bitterest enmity to ISLAM, after getting crushed and having fallen down forever at the hands of Sahaba® (The First Muslims). Now the offshoot generations of Majusis & Yahudis follows on their Shiateen elders, practising their bogus debious ways. May Allah Guide them to Pure Islam and its Original source –The Quran & Sahi-Ahadees, Ameen.

Facts of YAZEED Razi-Allahu-Anhu & HUSSAIN Razi-Allahu-Anhu

The blame on YAZID® that he had killed HUSSAIN® is baselss allegation put by YAHUDI & MAJUSI turned Shia-Shiateens who had framed a conspiracy to Kill HUSSAIN® pulling him from Medina to Iraq for Great Fraud and to invoke infighting among Muslim by infusing misinformation. Hell to YAHUDI MAJUSI and their offshoot -SHIA Shiateens. Ameen, LANAHUMULLAH.
The word Shia comes from SHIATEEN, The Devils, The Zalims, The Worst Enemy of Mankind. The Natural deserving Brand “SHIA” is from very base word “Shia-teen”. It has got quite astonishing fact that Evil is core to them and also the Brand “SHIA” was invented and accepted by Shia themselves. Its permanent mark forever has been sealed by Allah (swt) for Evil-doers and no one can ever change it.
Such worthless SHIATEEN display their dubious false Love for Hussain®, weeping, chanting going against the very Traditions of Muhammed (ss), to fool comman men and to misled Ummah in particular, on the Killing issue of their own doing. The Dubious Muslims, the offshoots of Majusis and Yahudis, have got bitterest enmity to ISLAM, after getting crushed and having fallen down forever at the hands of Sahaba® (The First Muslims). Now the offshoot generations of Majusis & Yahudis follows on their Shiateen elders, practising their bogus debious ways. May Allah Guide them to Pure Islam and its Original source –The Quran & Sahi-Ahadees, Ameen.

Facts of YAZEED Razi-Allahu-Anhu & HUSSAIN Razi-Allahu-Anhu

Facts of YAZEED Razi-Allahu-Anhu & HUSSAIN Razi-Allah-Anhu

The blame on YAZEED® that he had killed HUSSAIN® is baselss allegation put by YAHUDI & MAJUSI turned Shia-Shiateens who had framed a conspiracy to Kill HUSSAIN® pulling him from Medina to Iraq for Great Fraud and to invoke infighting among Muslim by infusing misinformation. Hell to YAHUDI MAJUSI and their offshoot -SHIA Shiateens. Ameen, LANAHUMULLAH.

The word Shia comes from SHIATEEN, The Devils, The Zalims, The Worst Enemy of Mankind. The Natural deserving Brand “SHIA” is from very base word “Shia-teen”. It has got quite astonishing fact that Evil is core to them and also the Brand “SHIA” was invented and accepted by Shia themselves. Its permanent mark forever has been sealed by Allah (swt) for Evil-doers and no one can ever change it.

Such worthless SHIATEEN display their dubious false Love for Hussain®, weeping, chanting going against the very Traditions of Muhammed (ss), to fool comman men and to misled Ummah in particular, on the Killing issue of their own doing. The Dubious Muslims, the offshoots of Majusis and Yahudis, have got bitterest enmity to ISLAM, after getting crushed and having fallen down forever at the hands of Sahaba® (The First Muslims). Now the offshoot generations of Majusis & Yahudis follows on their Shiateen elders, practising their bogus debious ways. May Allah Guide them to Pure Islam and its Original source –The Quran & Sahi-Ahadees, Ameen.

OH EVILS ADVOCATE

OH evils advocate

Have you lost it completely or are you speaking without knowing the facts, Yazid was a son of a bitch who not only commitd the crime of Massacaring the holy prophets(SAW) family but also Ransaked mecca and medina after the massacar, He attacked and damaged the roof of KABA and comitted zinha inside the kaba, he stopped all prayers in masjid-e-nabawi and turned it into a horse stable, for 3 days Yazids army raped and looted the women and men of madina and mecca.
this is just a tiny glimps of your YAZEED'S deeds.

YAZEED and his family are the true form of shaitaan and fools like u are the deciples of shaitaan.

I Pray to allah that he deals with you in the same way at the day of judgement as he would deal with Yzeed and his family and may ALLAH make you Yazeeds companion on the day of judgement. AMEEN

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